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| On 10 Nov 97 at 14:23, Alex Piandes wrote (in Bomp archives): They were a comet from 84 to 88. They are really special, mainly raw, dirty bluesy and trash with an incredible nasty slide guitar. may be a croos between the first Gun Club, some of the Cramps and 16 Horsepower (when they are not country). |
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| Tom Rafferty, january 2001 The Primevals was a pure Rock'n'Roll band ... Is it more easy to be R'n'R in Scotland ? How was the scene there ? I met Michael Rooney in 1982. He was running a record stall, "Primitive Records" and I was buying them!. He helped me really get back into rock and roll and introduced me to a lot of great music. I was already a big Ramones fan, and I saw the Cramps in 1979 and Robert Gordon with Link Wray around the same time - those gigs were all big influences on me. He was pointing me in the direction of the New York Dolls, The Fleshtones, Elvis, The Gun Club, Iggy - American music. As we got to know each other better, I started working on the stall. He needed a guitar player for the band he was starting - I jumped at the chance. He already had Rhod Burnett lined up, and we got a couple of Michael's friends to help us get going - Malcom McDonald on bass and Kevin Key on guitar. They were both good guys, who had played in a bunch of bands before. There was quite a rocking scene going on - as I remember it, anyway! When we started playing gigs, there was a pretty good range of places for bands to play - lots of pubs put bands on and there was a thriving club scene, too. Over the first year we branched out from playing in Glasgow to include Edinburgh, Dundee, Stirling, Aberdeen, Dunfermline, Kelso ... and London. We had a few line-up changes early on and settled fairly quickly with John Honeyman on bass and Don Gordon on guitar. We played whenever we could and had great fun running around charged up on rock & roll! Pretty soon I was sharing a flat with Michael and Malcolm - later John Honeyman moved in, too. The place was always on the go. The phone never stopped ringing when we had a gig that day, and there were always other people dropping in, saying hi, hanging out. [You can see the hall of that flat on the back sleeve of "Elixir of Life".] There were quite a few other bands in Glasgow and around Scotland at that time who had at least some things in common with us, like James King & The Lonewolves, The Kissing Bandits - guys who were rockers. What was the strongest influences of the band ? What music were you listening to ? I was listening to The Saints, Jerry Lee Lewis, the MC5, The Gun Club, The Cramps, Link Wray, Johnny Thunders, Jimmy Reed. The Stooges were a big influence, too. Michael has always had a great record collection so he was listening to a wide range - he'll tell you more. Rhod was listening to the Nuggets collection, the Fleshtones, and is also a huge jazz fan - Art Pepper, Louis Armstrong. There was a lot of Captain Beefheart around, too, and Howlin Wolf. What do you remember from the Primevals era ? from the gigs ? you played with the Gun Club, with David Johansen... I have very happy memories of my times with the band - we had great fun, and we left behind some good records. Some of the best fun were gigs where we would just do covers - one night we played at a party and we played Roadrunner, My Baby Does the Hanky Panky, Down on the Street, Rumble, Louie Louie, Break on Through ... but it also mattered that we played our own songs. Whenever we played a cover, Michael would always tell the crowd whose song it was - I think that was cool. It was also great to support the Gun Club - October 84 - and David Johansen - January 85. The gig in Paris on that tour was very special, too. We had been on the road for a while by then. We often started with an instrumental - I'm Branded, or The Rumble. Later, we used Eternal Hotfire. It was a great feeling standing there in black leather blasting out primitive rock & roll. I remember one gig at the Art School in Glasgow - we started with The Rumble, and that went down a storm. Then Michael ran onstage (he was waiting in the wings), and when he grabbed the microphone stand it fell apart - and it got wilder from then on! There were a lot of broken strings that night - I was a very heavy-handed guitar player then. Some of the gigs were pretty wild, and sometimes we didn't get as good a reaction as we should have, but we went out and did it. Often when we played a town for the second time we would see people coming back to see us and they would bring their friends. Later on, when the Beat Poets were gigging around Scotland people would ask me about the Primevals, and a lot of Scottish musicians I have met later on have told me that seeing the Primevals being a real wild rockin band was a big influence on them. I actually left the band twice - the first time (February 85) I was exhausted and wanted to do some other things with my life. I was still living in the flat with all the guys, and I helped out at gigs looking after guitars sometimes. I ended up re-joining in August that year - Michael asked me "If we were stuck for a guitar player could you help us out for a wee while ?" I said yes straightaway, and played a gig 4 days later, after one rehearsal. Most of the set that night was new to me (and the band hadn't played much of it live either) - it became the Soundhole album. That period was the recording of the Janice Long session, the recording of Soundhole, and some great gigs. When I left the band, in January, Malcom McDonald joined and he was playing a lot of slide. I was mainly playing rhythm, and I loved being back. The band started getting really busy again and much as I enjoyed it, the band needed someone who would drop everything to drive 300 miles for a gig and that wasn't me anymore. I had been back for about 5 months. I left before the band went to Europe to support the Cramps. Keith Bruce, who ended up forming the Beat Poets with me, drove the van for some of that tour - he crashed it on the first night!. It was a pretty wild time. I went out to Paris to see them in March 85 - it was great! Alex Chilton was first on, then the Primevals, then the Cramps. I saw Chilton the following night at The Rex, as well. Do you still meet the other members of The Primevals ? I still see John Honeyman fairly often - for a long time he & Malcom & I all lived near each other - Paul Bridges, too. Paul was in the original lineup of the Beat Poets, but left in early 1987 to join the Primevals - I totally understood why. Paul drums on the "Glasgow, Howard Missouri" EP. Rhod lives in London, I think - the last time I saw him was at a Primevals gig in Glasgow a few years ago - it was great to see him again. When I can, I go to see the band. I also played a couple of gigs on guitar with Michael, John & Paul when the guitar players in the band they had for a while (The Fatalistics) were double-booked. The gigs went well - River Deep Mountain High, Shakin Street, One Night, and some old Primevals tunes. We still bump into each other at gigs now and again - when we go to see people like the Rollins Band or the Blasters. It's always good to catch up with the guys again. Which were the bands you apprecieted in the 80's ... which are they in the 3rd millenium ? In terms of bands I liked in the 80s - not many 80s bands! My constants have been The Ramones, The Stooges, Link Wray, Dick Dale, The Raybeats, Them. And then other music - John Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Miles Davis, Glenn Branca, Rhys Chatham, Otis Redding, James Carr, Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf ... As well as the bands above, we listened to a lot of music - The Nomads, James Brown, Television, The Doors, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Suicide. And there were always great one-off singles, people like Johnny Restivo, Sanford Clark, all the Nuggets bands .... I got more and more into instrumental rock & roll and especially surf music, so that's what I ended up playing in The Beat Poets. We formed in 1986, put records out, played on TV, did the music for a BBC program called Ran Dan. John Honeyman joined us in the early 90s - our original bass player moved on. John has been pretty constant since then. Right now I'm listening to more jazz than anything else. Monk, Coltrane, Sun Ra. I'm playing guitar in a band which plays Thelonious Monk tunes - that's a stretch but good fun. But I will still crank up the Saints or the Stooges! And the Beat Poets have had a rest and are rehearsing again soon. So I'll be digging out Jon & The Nightriders, Dick Dale, the Bottleups, the Fantastic Baggies, Lonnie Mack ... e-nterview per email, jes |
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| Captain Beefheart's birthday party The Primevals organised (and played, of course) tribute nights on Captain Beefheart's birthday in january 1999 & 2000 in Glasgow. Captain Beefheart's birthday party, Glasgow 15/01/99 : photo of the Cobramatics who did the show with The Primevals that night. |
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| the other Primevals : USA, Boston, 1983 or so (might be after our scottish friends, anyway, that's no problem) : John Felice, just after the Real Kids and the Taxi Boys formed the Primevals (and before reformaing again the Real Kids, and after John Felice & the Lowdowns). The bostonian Primevals were : John Felice, Alan "Alpo" Paulino, Pete Taylor, and Billy Borgioli. Billy and Pete would later end up in the Classic Ruins together, along with Frank Rowe. Actually I think they released just one song under that name on a compilation LP. you may visit Joe Harvard's rockinboston or Real Kids' All kindsa disks |
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| Richard Mazda Mazdaworld! Richard Mazda produced the Primevals, the fleshtones, Birthday Party, Wall of Voodoo : visit his own site | |